fire dept.

[MR LIBERAL CAUSE]

in reponse to lawdog regarding the police dept contract

DITTO

GREED IS GOOD

[MR LIBERAL CAUSE]

to trucker2

there you go again

How would you have handled it differently? Please impart to us your great wisdom. Keep in mind that there are laws that need to be followed.

[bill the trucker 2]

to trucker2

there you go again

How would you have handled it differently? Please impart to us your great wisdom. Keep in mind that there are laws that need to be followed.

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I think You should ask the mayor what his plans are because it looks like the rest of our colegues on the forum pretty much have it coverd at the moment .

Havent you been listening to them??


At least they are trying , what has the mayor done?

Do ya think he has any idea there might be a issue?

Since ya asked me what I think,,,,, then I think you should get involved in solving the issue in a way that it does a little good for the entire comunity and not just a few liberals that are on their way out any way..

Personaly I dont think that absorbing the county and city will do any good ,,all it will do is cost everyone more money and at this time that is not a good idea.

As far as incorporating the EMS together under one dispatch for the entire county ,,,it might work.
As far as having private EMS squads , I believe we did that before and someone down town decided they needed control over it,just like the small bussus we used to have,,.

Bill

[easyeddy]

I believe from everything that I have seen that this City would be a whole lot better with a New Mayor and Safety Director. Just my thought.............................

[MR LIBERAL CAUSE]

to easyeddie

interesting thought, anything to back it up or are you like trucker2 and just thoughts.

in business there is a saying "Don't tell me what you think, tell me what you know"

to trucker2

still waiting for something straight. where did this come from?
your quote
"Personaly I dont think that absorbing the county and city will do any good ,,all it will do is cost everyone more money and at this time that is not a good idea.

As far as incorporating the EMS together under one dispatch for the entire county ,,,it might work."

well trucker2, which is it? all, some or none? and how does this work. look how well the health dept merger went.

by the way, has any body gone to city hall to ask for budget info? didn't think so.

[bill the trucker 2]

look how well the health dept merger went

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Since I havent had to deal with the health dpt in several years please allow me to ask you to elaborate on what it is you are talking about.

They have rules and guidelines thay have to follow as well as limitations on their actions.


LOL
Oh yea ,, YOU were the one who was going to city hall to find out about the budget.

Bill

[MR LIBERAL CAUSE]

to trucker2

you stated
"Since I havent had to deal with the health dpt in several years please allow me to ask you to elaborate on what it is you are talking about."

gee, lets see, it was in the paper, it's been dicussed on this forum, it was on the ballot and passed. Now there is one instead of two.

where have you been?

you stated
"Oh yea ,, YOU were the one who was going to city hall to find out about the budget."

No, I never said that. You were the one whining about the lack of information, as you saw it, and I suggested you should try and dig up the information yourself. You were the one who complained that 22 pages was insufficient to make a decision. Obviously you would prefer to yell at the darkness rather than walk across the room and turn on the light.

[bill the trucker 2]

WOW



I was asking you why you have a issue with having one office instead of two, ??

so it was in the news paper,, so what , I dont read that biased piece of garbage since I used to deliver the crap when it was still located in town ,,,they are biased and I wouldnt believe them if there was a tornado and they said there was ,,,,,,,

In my opinion it would apear on the surphase this merger may be a good idea ,,,,and especialy in this time of market crunch.

It looks like this will save money on personel cost,,transportation cost and utility cost to the people of this county and munincipality,, but of corse that is somethng that liberals dont understand too well.

ya know ,,, not spending others money!!

If you have a issue with the way things are being operated now ,,,,,,by all means explain it .

We might agree,,,

Bill

[bill the trucker 2]

I would say again I have no problem with combining them both under one format.

I have seen issues where a squad was sent from clear across town to a situation that could have been handled by one that was closer.

Bill

Bill

[Squirt]

I would say again I have no problem with combining them both under one format.

I have seen issues where a squad was sent from clear across town to a situation that could have been handled by one that was closer.
Bill

Bill

Has it ever occured to you that the one that was closer was already responding to another call?

[bill the trucker 2]

You might want to direct your question to both of the fire dpt's ay the next town meeting.

I dont thing they will yell at you or follow you or threaten you for asking such a simple question..







Bill

[EMPIC]

It seems to me, everyone just complains about the government instead of doing something about it. I see people saying the current administration is not doing their jobs. What are you talking about. Explain how the current Mayor is not doing his job. Have you ever been in politics? Have you ever had to deal with previous administrations screw-ups (such as allowing the unions to take complete control and bowing to their every wish). I mean come on! Complain, complain, complain. The fire department does not need a raise. They work 8 days per month, have other jobs on the side, get their birthday off (paid), get St. Patty's day off (paid, I mean really, who else gets that) and have great insurance. The fire department thinks without them the city of Marion would not survive. That's crazy. They are cry babies. There are plenty of highly trained people who are waiting their turn to become a fireman and get great pay. Combine the departments. Just like the Health Department and you will see a savings in money and it will also make it easier to manage and budget. Oh yea, sorry. Forgot something. The unions will not let the city do that. The unions control too much. They have out lived their usefulness.

[bill the trucker 2]

if it would cut our general fund by 2-3 million by cutting out ems runs, it would be interesting to know what it cost the city to do those runs i would be hard pressed to believe after you figure overtime, training,equipment cost and upkeep,as well as all the expense in license and liability that its not cost prohibitive.
i live here to and would love to see marion be great again but we have to face the facts it cost more to have them besides let the privates worry about the bad debt and operational expenses, this is not a time for anger and pride to cloud the issue whoever or whatever got us here we are here and while all the bigshots are fighting we still have a serious lack in fire protection. i hope no more kids have to die for everybody to face the facts.
and by the way you might want to check your facts about employment before you make statements that are not true. "we have to eat and pay our bills we do what we have to"

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I agree with you 100 % thank you.

Great post



Bill

[IAACW47]

The fire dept. is crying about the 13 man staffing levels getting cut from their contract. Just not long ago the fire dept. applied for a grant with councels approval to rehire 2 firemen, but the stipulation is that they have to keep the staffing level as it was the day the grant was filed. So why would they be worried about getting cut back on staff. Granted they still can get laid off (but not likely) but then they would automatically be disqualified for the grant money. They also just got a 6% raise over the next 2 years. Oh wait they agreed to pay more on their health insurance, hahahahahaha. The city saved a little over $20,000 a year on them paying more on their health insurance, BUT their raises , JUST THE RAISE is costing the city more than $120,000 per year. Now who in their right mind would say that they got screwed. Its like saying I'll give you $5 but you have to give me $60 back. I'd take that deal everyday !! What about the depts. that hasn't gotten a raise in 3 years and still have to pay more on their health insurance besides. Plus their raises even at 6% signifficantly increases their retirement benefits.

Those that didn't get any raises:
1. No increase in salary
2. Pay more on health insurance
3. Retirement benefits decreased signifficantly


I know everyone likes to get a raise, but lets be fair about it. If all other depts. have to take cuts to help with the budget then what makes the fire and police dept so all high and mighty that they can't help out? Are they that much more important than the rest? Are their bills more important than the rest? Is putting food on their table more important than everyone else?


The fire and police depts. always say that these cuts are putting peoples safety at risk but if you think about it, its them not willing to take modest cuts that is contributing to putting the people at risk ! You would think if they were so worried about it that they would want to help out.

[MR LIBERAL CAUSE]

so much for the oath of office they took. I "state your name" do hereby swear to faithfully perform

gee, you think the garbage men had to swear in to start their job?

GREED IS GOOD