SHOULD YOU BE VOTING REPUBLICAN

[bill the trucker 2]

industry (in a construction related field no less) is booming and his job is secure. My job is also very secure.

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Wish I had a dime for everytime I have heard that line!!


Bill

[MR LIBERAL CAUSE]

to gunslinger

bernie and geinther are actually in favor of putting a hold on spending and trying to get the deficit under control. gee, that doesn't turn out the way you wanted it does it? they were happy to bail out the banks and did so. now when it comes to us, it is a different story. maybe bernie only said he was in favor of reducing the budget to get reconfirmed by the senate. time will tell.

"In all the years I have studied history, I have never seen two historical events that turn out to be exactly the same, unless its on purpose"
your thesis on post ww1 germany is very good and very incomplete. if you would try a different author you may find that the peace treaty forced on germany contained a tremendous amount of reparations to the allies. they wanted germany to pay for their cost of the war. this was left out of your presentation. these reparations were as a punishment to germany and totally devastated their economy. i am not saying that what you stated is not true, i am stating that by leaving out the reparations paid, you leave out a huge part of the story.

[upisdown]

Don't know, don't care. I don't invest.

Maybe you dont invest, but I bet your husbands company does. Or if they do not, I bet that your husbands company's customers do. Or if they do not, I bet your husband's company's customer's customers do..........................see a pattern here??? Might be worth it to keep an eye on it as it affects everyone. No one is immune from it.

[MR LIBERAL CAUSE]

to "the dear sweet ms" jellybean

thank you for pointing out what i have been attempting. some people "just know" what is the right thing to do. Palin knows because God intervenes on her side. I think God's intervention came when the people went to the poles in '08.
It really does not matter what you show them, the facts are not important. It is some gut feeling they have that they know what is best. History is twisted to their point of view or ignored because that was then and this is now. Comparisons are made to countries and times that are not comparable. views are expressed based on improper definitions of words. labels are assigned to groups and persons that are totally incorrect. But they "just know" it is true.

30 second sound bites are the extent of their learning in most cases. in the others they only seek that which will confirm their point of view. That is why I call it the "Palinization" of America. In other words, it is the dummying down of the amerian people. they know no better.

thank you again

lc

[MR LIBERAL CAUSE]

to upisdown

you stated "Bush was a progressive, just like Obama is. That is why I say that there really is no difference between the two."

this sir, is a direct insult to all liberal/progressives who have ever walked the face of this earth. george the idiot was a dictatorial, megalomaniac nazi, or as close as this sountry ever elected to the office of the president. This shows your complete lack of understanding of the most basic terms in politics.
just ask hannity, he knows

liberals tax the wealthy not cut their taxes
liberals are for clean air and water, not making them dirtier
liberals are for not spying on their fellow americans.
liberals are not for illegal search and seizure.
liberals are for the right of law for everyone, not the select few
liberals are for --- oh never mind, you won't understand your error anyway

oh don't bother bringing up medicare prescription drug plan. the word on the street is that the reps can't vote out medicare because it would irrate the old folks and they vote. BUT, if it is completely broke and dysfunctional, they may have a chance. the prescription drug plan they passed under the idiot, remember no funding allowed, may be the way to achieve their goal of eliminating the the whole program. those sneeky r's.

next time you start comparing people to political terms, get out a dictionary and look the word up.

[jellybean]

Wish I had a dime for everytime I have heard that line!!

Bill

My income has grown since the "recession" hit even though I have done way less work but it doesn't much matter anyway because we are prepared if we both lost our jobs. We could last for years doing odd jobs and bartering before we would be in real trouble. Liberals are quite resourceful.

[upisdown]

this sir, is a direct insult to all liberal/progressives who have ever walked the face of this earth. george the idiot was a dictatorial, megalomaniac nazi, or as close as this sountry ever elected to the office of the president. This shows your complete lack of understanding of the most basic terms in politics.
just ask hannity, he knows

LOL!!! Got under your skin a little with that one ehh??? Well, in most cases, a "progressive" is the opposite of a "conservative", no??? Would you say Bush was a conservative??? I think not. He was all for growing the government. He was all for taking more freedoms from America i.e. the patriot act. Was he for changing and reforming policies??? Yes he was. This sir MAKES him a progressive, just like ol BO. Sorry to insult you, but as you would say, "facts is facts".

You see, this is what I have been saying all through this thread. What we have is the same ol stuff, different boss. The tax cuts to wealthy were nothing more than payoffs for helping him get elected. BO wouldnt happen to be doing that with SEIU or ACORN would he now??? I think that you know the answer to that.

liberals tax the wealthy not cut their taxes

If the wealthy donated to their campaign, you can bet your hind end that they would be cutting their taxes.

liberals are for clean air and water, not making them dirtier

Liberals are not for clean air. They are for controlling more of your money, just like the GOP is. Cap and Trade is just the latest way for them to accomplish this, maybe.............

liberals are for not spying on their fellow americans.

Ummm, I would refer you to the fact that BO re uped the patriot act and added some stuff himself. Again, same stuff, different boss.

liberals are not for illegal search and seizure.

Can you show me any laws that have been repealed regarding this since BO has been in office???

liberals are for the right of law for everyone, not the select few

Again, I refer you to the deals that SEIU and ACORN have gotten. ACORN was caught red handed helping a prostitute and pimp figure out how to set their PROSTITUTION business up legally. Any charges filed against them? Nope. As a matter of fact, they are still going to get MY TAX DOLLARS. Dont give me that crap......................

liberals are for --- oh never mind, you won't understand your error anyway

My biggest error is sitting here wasting my time trying to debate with someone who is nothing more than a cheerleader for the liberal/progressive Dems.

next time you start comparing people to political terms, get out a dictionary and look the word up.

This shows me that you have no idea how the paradigm has changed. Give that dictionary a few years. It will be updated. Then go back and look the word progressive up and see what it says.

I cannot help it that you are stuck in rut with this whole deal. All I can say is keeping talkin your talk and maybe you will get one or two people to go your way. But you live in a predominately conservative area. To most conservatives, the reps are the lesser of the two evils, mainly because of the beliefs and ideaology of liberals. Dont know what else to tell ya other than to relocate somewhere that is more in line with your thinking. I hear Key West is a great place for libs........................

[Gunslinger]

MR LIBERAL CAUSE wrote:
bernie and geinther are actually in favor of putting a hold on spending and trying to get the deficit under control. gee, that doesn't turn out the way you wanted it does it?

What exactly are you trying to imply here? I'm a Constitutional Libertarian, not a Republican or a Democrat. I feel that in order to pinpoint the differences in the 2 major parties one would have to use a microscope, as those differences are now too small to be seen with the naked eye. I personally dont agree with anything that either Bernanke or Geithner want to do in relation to our economy or our monetary situation. I feel the charter of the Federal Reserve needs to be revoked and monetary policy put back in the hands of Congress where it Constitutionally belongs. The Federal Reserve is a private for profit bank, owned and controlled by private individuals. It is neither Federal nor Reserve, its sole purpose is to make profit for its shareholders, therefore it puts its own interests before the interests of the country whos monetary policy it controls. A private bank controlling any countries monetary policy, controlling its interest rates, and its inflationary processes is asking to be robbed blind.

MR LIBERAL CAUSE wrote:
maybe bernie only said he was in favor of reducing the budget to get reconfirmed by the senate. time will tell.

Of course Bernanke lied to get reconfirmed. He has also lied before, and that makes him a lying liar who lies alot. Should we even consider that even though he may be a liar, we should believe anything he has to say now? Time will tell? I think not, time has already told. Bernanke is not new to the game, or to Washington. Bernanke and geithner have no vested interest in controlling spending, in fact the opposite is true. The more we spend, the more money they print, the deeper in debt we go ................. our country is owned by its debtors, and one of the biggest debt holders is the Federal Reserve.

MR LIBERAL CAUSE wrote:
if you would try a different author you may find that the peace treaty forced on germany contained a tremendous amount of reparations to the allies. they wanted germany to pay for their cost of the war. this was left out of your presentation. these reparations were as a punishment to germany and totally devastated their economy. i am not saying that what you stated is not true, i am stating that by leaving out the reparations paid, you leave out a huge part of the story.

Of course youre not saying that what I stated is not true, you cant because it is true. I did not mention the reparations forced on Germany because it was not pertinent to the statements that you made, or to the challenge that you posed to your fellow posters. I though the post was suffinciently long enough without adding a couple hundred more words that were not needed, as the reparations did not change the way they did business, only the amount they owed. You asked, I delivered.

You seem to believe that America can spend its way out of this mess by printing tons of money that is backed by nothing but air. Of course you must also realize that the more you print, the less its worth. Print enough and it will be worth nothing.

[upisdown]

to "the dear sweet ms" jellybean

thank you for pointing out what i have been attempting. some people "just know" what is the right thing to do. Palin knows because God intervenes on her side. I think God's intervention came when the people went to the poles in '08.
It really does not matter what you show them, the facts are not important. It is some gut feeling they have that they know what is best. History is twisted to their point of view or ignored because that was then and this is now. Comparisons are made to countries and times that are not comparable. views are expressed based on improper definitions of words. labels are assigned to groups and persons that are totally incorrect. But they "just know" it is true.

30 second sound bites are the extent of their learning in most cases. in the others they only seek that which will confirm their point of view. That is why I call it the "Palinization" of America. In other words, it is the dummying down of the amerian people. they know no better.

thank you again

lc

What can I say other than

And oh yeah, I heard today that Dick Cheney's daughter is going to appear on Larry King live in which she is going to discuss some politics and let everyone know that she is a PROGRESSIVE REPUBLICAN!!! Oh wait...............that cant be, right??? I mean you said so eloquently in your last post to me that there is no way that a Rep can be PROGRESSIVE. You told me that I should enlighten myself and use the dictionary. Well, excuse my ignorance, but apparently the rules have changed and reps can be progressives as well.

[MR LIBERAL CAUSE]

to gunslinger

you leaving out the reparations is only a little thing? IT WAS THE CAUSE OF EVERYTHING YOU STATED. in addition, they had just lost the biggest war in the history of the world, The Great War, until WW2 came along. another thing, their govt , the kaiser, had just been tossed for not winning and the new govt was as weak as could be.

remember, they lost and had to pay everyone back for what it cost to beat them. that peace treaty was part of the german mind set that started WW2. never again and we are going to get it all back.

i enjoy bantering, but please state all the items for your examples and not just the ones that you think show you are right. it just does not work. why not try a serious discussion?

[MR LIBERAL CAUSE]

to upisdown

any relation of atilla the dick that claims to be a progressive republican just means they use 110 volt current to shock you instead of 220. i have listened to her and she is as big a nazi as her daddy is. will trample your rights and tell you to hide under your bed because the bad ones (fill in your own choice) are coming to get your kids. fear is what republicans sell. fear of a different religion. fear of a different color. fear of a different culture. fear fear fear. you must be very afraid.
our parents generation did not fight WW2 and after it hang a bunch of war criminals to have our own president idiot do it in our name. and must of you uneducated true believers went along with it.
obviously all you conservatives believe that torturing someone is ok. how does that square with your conservative reliqous beliefs? i think one of your key phrases is "What would Jesus do?" do torture? no. agree with torture? no. but it is concenient to disagree with Jesus and agree with george the idiot.

[MR LIBERAL CAUSE]

to gunslinger

you stated

"I'm a Constitutional Libertarian, not a Republican or a Democrat."

let's see if you are

2nd ammendment -
1- militia clause has been tossed by the courts. should it be replaced and enforced that you actually have to be in a militia to have an arm.

2. as a strict constitutionalist, you must agree that the right to bare arms only applies to those arms that existed when the 2nd came into law. muzzle loader, single shot (some pepper boxes), knives, hatchets, and other very crude weaponry. since the constitution says nothing about automatic or semi-automatic weapons, does this not preclude them from being covered by the 2nd and should be unavailable to the general public?

let's see if your views are for only portions of the constitution.

[bill the trucker 2]

Wish I had a dime for everytime I have heard that line!!

Bill

My income has grown since the "recession" hit even though I have done way less work but it doesn't much matter anyway because we are prepared if we both lost our jobs. We could last for years doing odd jobs and bartering before we would be in real trouble. Liberals are quite resourceful.

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Its good to have high hopes..


We only wish ya the best,, thats more then the progressive liberals who bankrupted America wished upon us!!


Certificates and degrees and even experience are no more then a piece of paper in times like these, ya got to many who will work for nothing and want uncle sam to pay for everythign else..



Bill

[MR LIBERAL CAUSE]

before anyone jumps me about the 2nd..

do i conceal carry. part of that law is to only let the sheriff know.

some of the small arms i have owned over the years

smith model
15 - 5 or 6
19 couple
27 several
29 only 2
39 several
59 several
66 only one
browning hi-power several
colt acp full sizes - combat commanders and goldcups
colt hiway patrolman only one
colt single actions lots
charter arms bulldog (44 son of sam) fun to shoot but you cannot hit anything more than 6 feet away.
several lower quality pieces but never held very long.

other than the ones i currently have in my possession the rest are from memory. the previous post is only to find out an answer.

[Frank Drebin]

that worked out real well

lets try again

to mr drebin

could not copy directly so i had to recreate. i know it is wikepdia and it is suspect. if any one can confirm or debunk the following , please do.

job creation by president

president----------------- years in office--------------- million jobs created ----------------------% jobs created
peanut farmer --------------77-81-----------------------------10.3 ------------------------------------------3.1
raygun first -----------------81-85----------------------------- 5.3 -------------------------------------------1.5
raygun second --------------85-89---------------------------- 10.8------------------------------------------- 2.7
george the elder -----------89-93-------------------------------2.6------------------------------------------- .06
slick 1 -----------------------93-97 -----------------------------11.5 ------------------------------------------2.6
slick 2 -----------------------97-01 -----------------------------11.2 ------------------------------------------2.3
george the idiot 1 ----------01-05-------------------------------.01-------------------------------------------- .002
george the idiot 2---------- 05-09------------------------------ 1.9--------------------------------------------- .3
barry the ?????? ---------------09 -------------------------------(-3.4)-----------------------------------------( -2.5)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_creat ... tial_terms
total jobs created by party, (29.6 for the d's, 20.61 for the r's)
yearly avg by d's and r's (d's = 2.27 mill per year, r's = 1.03 mil per year)

are you having a, don't confuse me with facts because my mind is already made up, moment.

Mm hmm. So all those years that dems where in the white house, I wonder how jobs were in places like Marion, or even Morrow county compared to the rest of the other areas. Probably not so hot and isn't that what you asked- Should you (Marion) be voting Republican?